Kyla Scanlon on Communicating Economic Ideas through Social Media

Guest:
Kyla Scanlon — Economics writer and content creator
Host:
Tyler Cowen
Source:
Conversations with Tyler · 2 October 2024

Kyla Scanlon on Communicating Economic Ideas through Social Media

Economics writer and content creator Kyla Scanlon, author of In This Economy?, traces her path from a Western Kentucky car lot to explaining monetary policy to millions on TikTok and YouTube, then joins Tyler Cowen on why economic sentiment has turned so negative, what conspiratorial TikTok economics gets wrong, why young investors are gambling on crypto instead of buying homes, and whether the AI boom will follow the dot-com pattern of a crash that still leaves the technology standing.

Key ideas

  1. Scanlon’s authority comes from an unconventional, non-credentialed route into finance, not an elite pedigree. She taught herself options trading at 16 watching her father, attended Western Kentucky University on a full scholarship rather than an Ivy League school she could have afforded, got her first job at Capital Group only via a blind résumé, and sold 38 Hyundais in a single summer — an experience she credits with showing her how badly ordinary buyers understand down payments and financing, and with pushing her toward public economics education.
  2. TikTok economics trends conspiratorial, and her antidote is breadth of sourcing plus direct access to policymakers. She describes TikTok econ content as prone to scapegoating — blaming inflation on companies like BlackRock — because a scapegoat is emotionally soothing to a frustrated audience; she counters it by reading widely and by interviewing figures like the deputy Treasury secretary and Austan Goolsbee, which she says grounds her in what is ‘real stuff’ rather than narrative.
  3. Persistent economic negativity in the US, in Cowen’s framing that Scanlon builds on, comes from a run of genuinely bad events compounded by declining relative US status, and gets absorbed by passive social-media sharing rather than real protest. The financial crisis, 9/11, and the pandemic set a negative mood that self-validates as institutions perform worse; Scanlon connects this to her own cohort (born in 1997, into the dot-com bust) and its tilt toward nihilism, and to a retreat into fragmented subgroups rather than a shared push toward improvement.
  4. Housing costs reflect NIMBY resistance, chronic underbuilding since the Great Recession, and the fact that a house is simultaneously an asset and a place to live. Homebuilders pulled back after the 2008 crash and have faced high rates and heavy zoning restrictions since; because the bottom 50 percent of Americans hold most of their wealth in their home, building nearby to lower its value is politically fraught even where the evidence says it would not.
  5. Young investors are gambling on crypto and meme stocks partly because housing and equity ownership feel out of reach, and the stock market itself is increasingly detached from fundamentals. Scanlon cites Conor Sen’s theory that millennials and Gen Z, priced out of homeownership, turn to speculative assets instead; she and Cowen agree the ‘Magnificent Seven’ rallying on minimal news, while the rest of the market lags, shows a hype-driven market that a Sequoia-memo-style AI reckoning could unwind much as pets.com collapsed while the internet endured.

Content

From a Kentucky car lot to economics educator

Scanlon’s childhood reading ran to fantasy — the Graceling series, Harry Potter — because, she says, science fiction felt ‘too real’, and she built out an ‘economic kingdom’ of monetary-policy and fiscal-policy castles as her own attempt at world-building in In This Economy?. She started options trading at 16 after watching her father use tastytrade, lost money on a Brazilian ETF iron condor, and blogged about it at Scanlon on Stocks. Rather than an Ivy League school she could have afforded, she chose Western Kentucky University on a full ride, triple-majored, graduated valedictorian, and got her first finance job at Capital Group in Los Angeles only through a blind résumé — crediting the experience with showing her how much the Ivy League still matters for elite finance hiring even as it left her better prepared to design her own path. A summer spent selling Hyundais at 19, in which she sold 38 cars, taught her how vulnerable and undereducated ordinary buyers are about down payments and financing, and she names it as the real origin of her public economics education work.

Introversion as the engine of a content career

Scanlon started making videos during the pandemic, alone in a 350-square-foot Los Angeles apartment, reasoning that talking to a screen was her best route to connection; she frames video-making as ideal for an introvert because it is fundamentally solitary. She has posted over 500 TikToks and 150–200 YouTube videos, typically scripting in her notes app, memorising the content, and keeping her eyes on the camera rather than the page. She reports the abuse is real and personal — audiences treat her as ‘a figment of the audience’s imagination’ onto whom they project distrust, especially on inflation and labour-market data in a ‘post-truth’ climate — and that she has not fully solved for it, still taking it personally when she feels she has explained something poorly.

What TikTok teaches about economics

Asked what economics young people learn from TikTok, Scanlon calls it ‘concerning’ and ‘definitely conspiratorial’: a lot of the content pins inflation on companies (BlackRock is a recurring villain) because a scapegoat is more emotionally satisfying than a diffuse structural explanation. Her own resistance to that pull, she says, comes from reading as many sources as she can and from one-on-one access to policymakers — she names an interview with the deputy secretary of the Treasury and one with Austan Goolsbee of the Chicago Fed as moments that ground her in ‘there’s real stuff going on here’ rather than narrative. On the platforms themselves, she describes TikTok’s algorithm degrading as usage shifts toward TikTok Shop commerce, and contrasts it with Instagram Reels, which she reads as more curated toward an ‘authentic creator’ and less relentlessly commercial, though she predicts both will move toward more immersive, AR/VR-inflected, user-directed formats.

A negativity spiral and its causes

Cowen argues 1990s economics education was better not because resources were worse now — they are far more abundant — but because the intervening events (the financial crisis, 9/11, the pandemic) set a negative mood that then colours how people process everything, including basic economic reasoning; he cites Singapore, where a taxi driver can casually invoke comparative advantage, as a case where sustained real success sustains a positive outlook that in turn improves economic understanding. Scanlon connects this directly to her own cohort — born in 1997, into the dot-com bust, and now trending toward nihilism — and to a broader retreat into fragmented online subgroups rather than a shared push toward improvement. Both agree the outlet for this discontent has become passive: sharing a story on social media substitutes for the kind of street protest that, 30 or 40 years ago, would have followed comparable events, which Cowen argues removes a key source of political error-correction even as it lets people feel they are doing something.

Fixing mainstream media and using Twitter well

Asked how she would run a media outlet, Scanlon would drop the paywall, publish ‘foundational resources’ readers can check against primary data, and adopt something like Semafor’s practice of separating a story’s facts from a flagged statement of the reporter’s likely bias — because, she argues, the defining anxiety of the current moment is readers constantly hunting for where they might be lied to. On Twitter/X, she credits it as the platform that gave her a start because of the concentration of genuinely smart people there, names accounts like Employ America as reliable, and describes a discipline of muting rather than blocking to manage harassment while still surfacing signal over viral noise.

Housing, YIMBYism, and speculative investing

Cowen and Scanlon separate two forces in high housing costs: co-location value (Seoul is expensive despite building enormously, because so much of Korea’s economy concentrates there) and outright NIMBY resistance (Cowen’s example is Oakland). Scanlon attributes much of the shortfall to underbuilding since the Great Recession — homebuilders who were burned in 2008 pulled back, rates are now high, and zoning restrictions compound the problem — and to the fact that housing is both a place to live and, for the bottom half of Americans by wealth, nearly their entire asset base, which makes any policy that might lower home values politically costly even where evidence shows building more does not reduce nearby values. She reports Austin, Texas as a case where YIMBY-style building did bring prices down (roughly 12 percent by December 2023) but expects resistance in cities like New York to stay high. On risk-taking, she cites Conor Sen’s theory that millennials and Gen Z, priced out of housing, gamble on crypto and meme stocks instead, and observes that with the ‘Magnificent Seven’ rallying 8 percent on minimal news while the rest of the market lags, the stock market currently reads more as a hype vehicle than a reflection of fundamentals.

AI and energy as the next hype cycle

Discussing the Sequoia memo on AI’s revenue gap, Cowen predicts a boom-bust pattern like the dot-com era — a crash that still leaves the underlying technology standing, as with pets.com’s failure alongside the internet’s survival — and offers a specific model: AI services will likely commoditise, leaving the firms that funded the fixed costs of training as the eventual losers while cheap AI’s gains flow mostly to users and consumers, a pattern he likens to vaccine economics. Both then turn to energy as the underappreciated constraint: Scanlon notes energy has been hidden from public attention by how reliably the light switch works, while Cowen argues countries willing to build energy infrastructure without NIMBY resistance — he names the UAE — hold an underrated geopolitical advantage, and that solar and battery cost declines still leave a case for nuclear as backup against low-probability, high-severity risk.

Reading, poetry, and closing reflections

Scanlon describes turning to Rilke and to poetry generally for a ‘human-centric lens’ on economics, since she finds she absorbs the world’s emotional weight without strong boundaries and prefers explaining economic theory through poetic rather than purely technical language. Asked for investing advice for young people, she defaults to buy, hold, and diversify, and describes building her own portfolio around companies she is a consumer of (Nike, United, the constituents of the Nasdaq), alongside Treasuries bought when rates were high — framed against a Federal Reserve chart she returns to often showing the bottom half of Americans holding wealth almost entirely in housing versus the top 10 percent holding it in equities and business ownership. She uses Claude for research and ChatGPT for fact-checking, grammar, and pronunciation. Closing on her own reading habits, she says she thinks more about the Great Depression than the ‘How often do you think about the Roman Empire’ meme, drawn to it by books like Trust and by robber-baron history, and by a recent statistic that a meaningful share of Americans now believe today is worse than the Great Depression despite 4.1 percent unemployment — evidence, in her reading, of how far sentiment has decoupled from data.

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